Analects 3.24: 八佾 (Ba Yi)

Confucius and his disciples · Classical Chinese original · new English translation and commentary by Text Atlas

Overview

Book 3 examines what gives ritual its authority and meaning. Household displays borrow the forms of rulers, while humaneness, restraint, grief, and reverence test what those forms can express. Questions about poetry, inherited rites, sacrifice, and music show understanding at work: a learner carries an image further, the Master asks about everything, and a musical whole holds its parts together. Rulers and ministers each receive a standard of conduct. The book ends by distinguishing beauty from goodness and by asking what high office, ritual, and mourning are worth without the qualities they require.

Analects 3.24

3.24

儀封人請見、曰、君子之至於斯也、吾未嘗不得見也。從者見之、出曰、二三子、何患於喪乎、天下之無道也久矣、天將以夫子為木鐸。

3.24

The border warden at Yi asked to see the Master. “Whenever exemplary people come here,” he said, “I have always been allowed to see them.” The followers brought him in. When he came out, he said, “Friends, why worry about this loss? All under Heaven has long been without the Way. Heaven is going to make your Master a bell with a wooden clapper.”

Commentary

philology What has been lost? The speaker is introduced by his role at Yi, and he addresses the Master’s followers after an audience. 喪 names a loss without specifying its object. Legge supplies the Master’s loss of office. The English keeps “this loss”; loss of office is a plausible setting. The reply contrasts a present setback with the larger purpose the warden sees for the Master.

Basis: translation-comparison

Confidence: medium

politics A voice Heaven will carry The warden’s image makes the Master a 木鐸, a bell with a wooden clapper; Legge likewise places the wood in the bell’s tongue. The image gives his voice a reach beyond the immediate audience. Heaven’s purpose is the warden’s assurance to the followers, set against a world long without the Way.

Basis: translation-comparison

Confidence: medium

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